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>> and that's -- that causes time, that causes delays, doesn't let supplies leave the airport because they've got to round up some security people and there's clearly not enough to go around. >> i saw this firsthand, obviously, doctors leaving -- being escorted. >> friday night. >> by u.n. because of security concerns as well. somebody made a decision that we're going to emphasize security and that's going to cost some of this medical and humanitarian relief. here's the thing, we talked about this. if you give humanitarian and medical relief, you decrease the need for security. you decrease desperation and desperation obviously could possibly lead to problems. but they're not getting medical aid there. and that's going to cause a security problem. >> frankly, i'm amazed at how receptive and after eight days how patient and tolerant the haitian people are in port-au-prince. desperate people, yes, but by and large getting along with one another. incredibly happy to see anybody trying to help them. and it's not as if we're in a bunker here and need constant
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around the clock, an army of people around us. >> i had the same experience. the entire time here. this is my first assignment in haiti. i knew it was a tough place. i have not felt physically threatened a single time. let's face it, i don't blend here. >> we'll have a lot more tomorrow from port-au-prince. we're committed to this story. thanks for watching. "larry king" starts right now. >> larry: tonight a 5.9 after shock rattles haiti, but it didn't stop a miracle. a 5-year-old boy pulled alive from the house that collapsed on top of him eight days ago. his mother was killed, his father's missing, and he survives. we've got the latest from haiti. and then democrats are stunned. left scrambling on health care after an upset republican wins ted kennedy's seat. what's the message from massachusetts? is the president listening?
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next on "larry king live." >> larry: good evening. we begin first with john king, the anchor of cnn's "state of the union," cnn's chief national correspondent, back in new york after his night last night in boston. listening to scott brown today, he sounded, john, much more like an independent than a republican. >> and he hopes to keep it that way, larry. that's one of the fascinating challenges. here is this guy who campaigned on the theme of being the 41st vote, meaning 41st republican senator in washington. he knows he needs to keep support among the independent voter, the very same voters who gave barack obama his big margin just 14 months ago gave scott brown his improbable upset victory last night. he goes to washington with that challenge. he'll caucus with the white house. he says he opposes the health care plan as it now stands, opposes the big spending in washington, but he knows he's from an independent-minded
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state. he can't be, say, a senator from south carolina. south carolina republicans are different from massachusetts republicans. he sounded very independent. it will be fascinating to watch. his first trip to d.c. tomorrow, a few weeks before he's officially the senator. >> larry: the president said he doesn't want anything concrete to happen until he's seated. was the brown camp surprised at that? >> a bit surprised, but they think the president is correctly reading the results last night. that independent voters don't like what they see in washington. part of what they're saying -- remember, for all he said on the economy, health care, iraq, afghanistan, president obama, as candidate obama his fundamental promise was we'll make washington get around, won't be so partisan, get things done. voters don't like what they see right now. party plolitics. just the democrat on health care. just the obama and pelosi and reid working on things. the calculation the president has made an the brown campaign would say it's right, if we try to do anything that voters view
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as partisan shenanigans right now, we'll be punished for it. >> larry: john, do the democrats come out fighting, do they come out united or come out dispir dispirited? >> they're a bit dispirited right now. a long way between now and november. but there's a great mistrust of institutions in the country right now. people don't like big government, they don't like the big banks. they don't like the political parties. more and more people are leaving the democratic party and the republican party to become independents. and so you have this unpredictable growing group in the middle, and in virginia, new jersey and now massachusetts this year, they've gone for the republicans in a very big way. it was only in 2008 in november they went for the democrats in a big way. the democrats look at that, they look at big senate races in places like new hampshire, governors races in places like colorado, states where independent voters will make the difference. and on this morning after this big election in massachusetts, now the evening after the election in massachusetts, they are nervous. many democrats are saying we have to scale back our grand am bigs, move to the center, don't
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govern from such a liberal perspective. and show the independents that we're willing to have a conversation with republicans. >> larry: thanks, john. john king reminding us that the only thing certain is uncertainty. let's go to port-au-prince. anderson cooper, the anchor of "ac 360." the latest, what i'm told, is an incredible survival story. what is this story? >> yeah. larry, a little 5-year-old boy found alive today. his name is manly. he was brought into general hospital, write just happened to be on another story. brought in by his uncle. not even professional searchers. huz uncle was digging through the home where his parents are dead. he heard manly saying, i'm here, i'm here. with five other friends with a pick ax dug into the hole and found him. this all according to the uncle. brought him to the hospital. he was covered in dust.
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totally disorient pdp this little boy looked on the brink of death. rushed into a room where a doctor and a nurse from the international medical corps immediately started attending to him. got iv fluids in to him. started checking for any broken bones or internal injuries. he had none. he was severely dehydrated. if you pinched your skin, larry, it would bounce right back to normal. if you pinch the skin of somebody severely dehydrated, it actually stays in that sort of pinched position. that's the sign. this little boy was severely dehydrated. gradually the fluid started pumping through his vaein, you could see improvement before your eyes. he could cross his legs, which he couldn't. he was curled up in a ball underneath this rubble. he had an alcoholy smell emanating from him. the doctor said this is typical of people who haven't had any food or water and whose bodies are starting to consume -- the body's consuming itself, eating
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the fat, the muscles. it gives that smell. >> larry: wow. got to believe in miracles. a strong after shock early today. really shotrong. where were you when it happened? >> actually just gotten up from my bed. you know, it happened -- the whole building we were in started to shake. someone in this complex, a reporter from portugal, i heard, he jumped out a window. he got so panicked. he injured his head. people started screaming. there were hundreds sleeping in the park and have been since the earthquake. a lot of people all over port-au-prince sleeping in parks. screaming, running away from any building they may have been near. i stayed in my room. i looked at the ceiling. it didn't fall on me so i just went back to bed. at general hospital where i went, they had to evacuate the hospital. by the time i got there in the afternoon around 1:00 or 2:00, the courtyard was filled with
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patients, post operative patient, patients waiting for surgery. it was a scene of chaos. the doctors were concerned. they were sitting under the sun. they don't have enough supplies. they said this after shock set them back a day or two days in terms of the organization. they've had to spend all day dealing with all these patients, critical patients outside in the sun. >> larry: anderson cooper, who keeps on keeping on. we'll check with you tomorrow. thanks, anderson. anderson cooper in port-au-prince. usher's going to be here tomorrow night. he's helping raise money for haiti with young people all over the world. he'll tell us all about it. we've got more politics, next. would frustrate me. in a basketball game a couple minutes could mean a big momentum shift. my bayer meter is very important. (announcer) only bayer's contour meter has programmable personal high low settings. it allows me to be able to look at my highs and lows to make sure that my diabetes is being controlled as tightly as possible. with my bayer meter i don't miss valuable game time.
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>> larry: a program note. some of you expected to see our interview with brittany murphy's mother and her house about her untimely death last month. due to the events in haiti we're postponing it. we'll let you know when it's rescheduled. we've pretaped it already. we'll be going back to haiti. but first more politics. in new york david gergen, cnn senior political analyst. in new orleans mary matalin, our republican strategist. in new york, donna brazile, our democratic strategist, and in new york, the columnist for "the daily beast" and author of "wingnuts, how the lunatic fringe is hijacking america." president obama was asked about the election last night. here's what he said to abc's george stephanopoulos. >> the same thing that swept scott brown into office swept me into office. people are angry and they're fraus rated.
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>> what's the strategy going forward. a lot of people talked about getting the house to pass the senate bill. >> here's one thing i know. i just want to make sure this is off the table. the senate certainly shouldn't try to jam anything through until scott brown is seated. the people of massachusetts spoke. he's got to be part of that process. i would advise that we try to move quickly to coalesce around those elements of the package that people agree on. >> larry: david gergen, what's your reaction to that? >> larry, first of all, it's hard to go from that 5-year-old child in haiti back to politics. isn't it? but i think the interpretation is being placed on it by a number of people is right and that is that president obama was signaling in that interview that he's prepared to accept some sort of scaled down package on health care reform. he might try to get something through that's a big package. but he said essentially let's make sure we have this,
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insurance reform, something for cost containment and something for small business. that, frankly, is a retreat from the dream of democrats for 70 years for achieving universal access. what we're hearing and seeing, larry, is the fading of that dream yet once again. >> larry: if true, donna brazile, do you agree with that, by the way, don sna? >> absolutely. look, we lost one vote. and it was a very important vote. but the democrats did not lose their core values of trying to get this economy to work for all americans and, of course, trying to bring about health insurance reform that will help americans lower their premiums, provide greater access for those without health kay and, of course, give small businesses an opportunity to cover their employees. so i think the president is absolutely right. to look for ways to get the two bills into one package that can be put together quickly for the congressional budget office to
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score and to take that to the american people and hopefully mr. brown will be on board to help pass real health care reform. >> larry: mary matalin, john mccain today on the senate floor called this a national victory. do you agree? >> well, it was national on the heels or on top of cumulative trifecta for republicans in new jersey, a true blue state and virginia, an emergency new blue state, yeah, it was a national campaign. it wasn't just health care. there are a number of other issues that would be conventionally called conservative that scott brown run unabashedly on, cutting taxes, prosecuting the war on terror. but david gergen is exactly right. this is a big walk-back. ironically what happened on health care in the past year is that people came to appreciate our health care system and they want some reforms and they don't want the baby thrown out with the bathwater. >> larry: by the way, where are you? what's behind you?
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>> i am standing in front of and trying not to listen to, although he's been spectacular, roland here is entertaining a massive crowd at tulane. he's very inspirational. he's better than us right now. >> larry: and he's fighting you. let's go to john avalon in new york. author of "wingnuts: how the lunatic fringe is hijacking america." that wasn't the lunatic fringe yesterday, was it? >> no, no, it wasn't. larry, i am an independent. many folks who are younger americans are independents. 44% of voters born after 1977 are independents. what's happening is a very consistent message. but it should be a wake-up call to both democrats and republicans. democrats need to understand that they're overspending. and what's happened with unified control of government, this approach that seems to have come out of nancy pelosi's congress has alienated independents big time. but republicans who want to interpret this as an endorsement for their whole agenda, they're
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in denial about what this is about. scott brown was a pro choice republican. independents swung toward him because he's consistent with what they generally believe. socially liberal to libertarian. that's where young voters are. that's the message being sent tonight. folks got to get the message in washington. the era of play to the base politics is over. >> larry: we'll get when it comes to things you care about, leave nothing to chance travelers. insurance for auto, home and business.
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the number one thing i heard is that people are tired of business as usual. >> what happened here in massachusetts can happen all over america. >> larry: we're back. david, is john avalon right? >> well, john has emerged as one of the leading voices of his generation. so i respect that. but i do disagree about his analysis about scott brown. he was embraced by the social conservatives. he did not necessarily embrace their full agenda. he did say he was for roe v.
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wade, but he wants to put a lot of restrictions on the way abortions are done. he's against gay marriage. he was a right-to-life candidate in this election. i don't think it was a major thing that drove the election. i think he was very much against deficit spending, very much against the health care bill. but to go back to the question you put to mary matalin. when scott brown took off in december and very large part when he began campaigning, larry, to become the 41st senator, he nationalized the race. and when he did that along with his sort of populism and his real authenticity, he reminds me a lot of sarah palin in some ways because he's real, authentic and of the people. i don't think he's sarah palin in pants but he does have some of that same charismatic quality. that combination of nationalizing the race and that personality really drove this and brought him the victory against a, as we all know now, not a very good candidate.
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>> donna, in speaking today, he mentioned, scott brown mentioned, how bipartisan he was in the massachusetts legislature. do you expect him to be that in the senate? >> i hope so. and i hope president obama reaches out to him. he ran a very aggressive grassroots campaign. i spent time yesterday on the telephone reaching out to voters, urging him to go to the polls. many of them said, you're the first person to call and you're from washington, d.c. he really touched people. he went where they live, where they ate, where they play and where they prayed. it was a traditional old style democratic campaign, a bottom-up campaign. but now that he's coming to washington, d.c., i hope he's not the person who will veto health care reform or job creation or energy, climate change. we need to find republicans who are willing to work with the president to find common-sense solutions. that's what the american people want. i think ultimately, that's the verdict of the 2008 election and
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this special election in massachusetts. they want both parties to work together. >> but here's the thing, though, larry. and to you, donna, i think the republican senate and the senate is mainly this -- that barack obama and his team seem to have gotten their cart in a ditch and it's going to be up to them to get it out. they don't plan to give them any help doing that. they may help in afghanistan but i don't think in much else. this hope for a new era of bipartisanship, i think we're a long way from that. >> that's such an important part. >> mary, do you think the republicans can get a little too cocky over this? because it appears that no party is popular. >> no, no. no, there's no chest beating, if you watched what senator-elect brown said last night, but the democrats are going to misread again, as they've misread their mandate and they've misread throughout the year the response to that midread mandate by
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thinking that the republicans are obstructing because they just don't want to play well with democrats. they object to this agenda. they do not believe that kind of economic takeover that would be brought from this energy plan, they do not believe that 16% of the economy will be taken over with health care. they don't believe that kind of governance. if he ran on that and christie ran on that and mcdonald of virginia ran on that, yes, they ran a good campaign, but that doesn't make up for a bad message. people are responding to that message. democrats need to come and work with republicans, not the other way around, if we want to have any progress in washington. >> with all due respect, i don't think the republicans should overinterpret the results. there's no evidence in the polling, the so-called exit poll that one firm conducted, that the voters up there want to return to the past. they really want the parties to come together to find jobs,
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restore our economy and to really bring this country back from the brink of a financial collapse. that's what they want. >> larry: okay. >> i don't think that requires us to have a democratic solution, a republican solution but an american solution. >> larry: we'll bring john back after this. i got to get a break.
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>> larry: john avalon, down to the nitty gr-gritty, is the president going to get a health care bill?
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>> you know, that's the kind of crystal ball we all wish we could have. what you see is he has the sense to say that jamming through a bill in a nonpartisan way will only compound the problems the democrats have. it will lead to a bigger backlash. there may be a way, unlikely about the senate bill, that might be the least lousy of all the options. the ideal thing would be to try to form a bipartisan coalition, which is what he was elected to do. independents voted for barack obama because he promised to transcend all the old politics of left versus right, black versus white. democrats are angry because of that bipartisan slp in washington. liberal house leadership did misread it as a liberal ideological mandate. but republicans shouldn't get too far ahead of themselves either. as you look at the conservative populism that's out there, to david's point, that's fueling the tea party protests, sarah palin, rush limbaugh, mike huckabee. independents don't like them.
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there is no connection. scott brown was able to win independents in a state that's 51% independent. that is what's happening, that's what republicans and democrats need to do to survive. the reality is that independents are the largest and fastest growing segment of the electorate. >> john, as a liberal, i take personal offense at demonizing people -- >> don't take personal offense. >> i take personal offense. because when you see the speaker of the house and the majority leader stand up to expand children's health insurance, you see them trying to help americans that are burdened with credit card debt and reduces the costs of their interest payments. that's not a liberal agenda. that's trying to help hard working people in this country. >> i understand, but it's seen as a liberal agenda. >> i understand the perception. we've done a lousy job with messaging. i agree with that. i don't take that personally. that's something that democrats must do. let's try to bring people together, john. >> david, what's puzzling to an
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observer, unless you're a whacko, everybody thinks we need health care reform. since everybody thinks we need health care reform, why can't we get health care reform? >> well, larry, that's a really good question. but there has -- and there was a time when republicans were much close are to democrats in agreeing on what might be in it. richard nixon, of all people, proposed a national health insurance plan that would that teddy kennedy and he were working pretty closely together. fell apart at the last minute. might well have happened. over the last 20 years there has been a real split between the two parties, both wanting health care reform. but the republicans want a private sector kind of plan, be very much based on private choice and the private industry. and there's a sense that the democrats much prefer a system with the government heavily involved, regulating or actually running it. one of the big differences that
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president obama came down on the side of keeping the health insurance companies there, but he's been pulled -- a lot of people are pulling to the left in his own party to have more government intervention. and the conservatives just don't buy that. i think there's a fundamental ideological split on this. >> larry: mary, how do the republicans feel that the poor will be involved? how do they get those who can't afford it to get health care? >> the notion that if you're not for big government takeover of health care, that you're for the status quo, you're for no health care reform is one of those strawmen that the democrats like to employ. republicans have on the table and will come back to the table with a number of ways to reduce the cost of health care and health insurance, which all of which were at various times in and out of the bill, from pooling for small businesses, for consumer infusion, for market-based plans, for tort
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reform, for digitation. all the rest of these things that control the costs. this is not not affording health care to everybody, who by the way, everybody has access to health care today. that's another misnomer. but a tenant of republican proposal is that there be universal health care and the republicans did contribute to passing chip and health care for children. so the notion that the republicans are out there on some sort of fringe limb or status quo where it's just one of those boogiemen that people are not listening to any of the races that have been run in the last year. >> but the health insurance bill passed under the pelosi reid leadership. >> larry: right now live to haiti and the still devastating conditions there. they let me break past the counter... and choose any car in the aisle. unreal! oh yeah! whoaaa-- ( alarm sounding ) i'm sorry. you okay? my bad, mr. sapp. oh yeah. go national. go like a pro.
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>> larry: by the way, our fund-raising efforts continue on behalf of the people of haiti. we're hoping to auction off the michael jackson opus on our website. go to bid. last time i looked, it was up to $19,000. let's go to port-au-prince. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn's chief medical correspondent, practicing neurosurgeon. a lot of focus from outside haiti. i understand that you reported about a hospital being operated by a pair of haitian twins. what's that all about? >> yeah, you know, i think there's an assumption that most of the aid is coming from outside, but in fact, a lot of the haitian doctors who were there beforehand, they stayed. in fact, they stayed open for business even as the earthquake -- just as soon as the earthquake ended. so this particular practice is run by two brothers. they are twins. both general surgeons.
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very well trained. they trained in france. decided to practice in port-au-prince. over the first three days after the earthquake, they immediately went there and started taking care of patients. 75 patients within that time period. i saw them driving around the streets when i first got here. i didn't know who they were. they were in their vehicle literally picking up patients off the street and bringing them back to their clinic and taking care of them. now, they are dependent on aid as well because they lost a lot of their supplies in the earthquake. that aid is starting to slowly come in. but they were very adamant with me that, look, it's eight days now, we really need to get our clinic up and running to full capacity again and we're just not there. remarkable guys doing a lot for the community there. >> larry: are more people being cared for in better fashion day to day? >> absolutely. no question. as much as we talked about how desperate the situation is down here, we would be remiss if we didn't acknowledge that it was getting better.
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now, getting better is a relative term. as you know, larry, in part because of where haiti started. 80% of the people living in poverty translates to everything, including the medical infrastructure. hospitals weren't that good in first place. there were not any icus, not enough supplies. then you add this problem of more patients and fewer hospitals, it gets worse. but it is better. i think you're starting to see some optimism among the doctors, even a little bit of time to come out and talk to us and explain what's going on before they get right back into it again. >> larry: the amazing dr. sanjay gupta, keeps on keeping on. thanks, sanjay. back to port-au-prince. gary tuchman, cnn's international correspondent. elderly patients at a municipal nursing home. what was that all about? >> you were talking to sanjay about how things relatively have improved. but at this nursing home they
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have not improved whatsoever. a nursing home partially destroyed. six of the seniors who lived there were killed. 74 who survived are now living outdoors in squalor. they have no food, no water, no medicine. one doctor for all 74 people. a haitian doctor who just showed up today after a week. all he has with him is aspirin, bandages and a blood pressure gauge. these people are living in diapers. some people have no clothes on whatsoever. and they have nothing to eat, nothing to drink. it's an absolutely desperate situation. the worst part is there's no plans for them for the future. the director of the nursing home, who is still there, to his credit, doesn't know what he's going to do with these people. >> larry: why can't they get food to them? >> people are coming by and giving them little samples of food. but there is no storage of food whatsoever. they asked us, please, cnn, go on larry king and go on other cnn programs and tell them that the port-au-prince municipal
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nursing home needs food and water. just before we left after we did a couple of live reports, a british aid worker came by and said that she's going to get some supplies by late tonight. we hope that is indeed the case. >> larry: gary, the u.n. estimates one-third of haiti's population, that's 3 million people, are still in need of food, water, sheltie and medical assistance. do you see anything getting better? >> sanjay was saying, things have gotten a little bit better. but such a relative term. you see behind me right now, we still have thousands of people living in this park who have no homes. they've been out there for eight nights. they don't have bathrooms. they don't have showers. they have very little food. there's still a lot of hunger, thirsty people on the streets. people come up and ask us for food and water. it breaks your heart that we can't give boxes and give it to everyone who asks. we just can't do it. >> gary tuchman, cnn's national correspondent.
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>> larry: remember that story we showed you yesterday, the lady being carried out of the rubble after being buried live five days? there she is in woke karat been. that's mimi dittmer, buried in the market. with her sons ricky and mike. mimi, how are you feeling? >> i'm feeling -- i'm feeling better. i'm getting better now. i'm feeling okay now. >> larry: what kept you going for five days under rubble?
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>> what kept me going? i can tell you -- i can tell you that in one word. that was the lord jesus christ. i had no doubt that he would save me. the minute i saw myself buried, i knew my lord jesus christ would take me out of there. and i started praying from the minute then. >> larry: ricky, did you think you'd lost your mother? >> no, we never -- five days was quite a while, but we never lost hope. we just had to keep going. you know, hoping and praying that she would be all right. >> larry: well, the three men who got her out are with us. they're still in port-au-prince, of course. joseph fernandez the leader of the south florida urban rescue
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task force two team. dr. mark grossman, also of task force two. and eric ficus, the south urban as well paramedic for pembroke pines, florida, the town where mimi dittmer is from. how do you explain this? how did she live? >> well, i think by the grace of god, as mimi said. and with some help from us. when i first saw mimi come out after hours of guiding the operations and all these guys that were in the hole with her, and she started reciting all her information down to her driver's license number in detail, i really was anxious that when i was going to make the call, something might not be right. so we had a lot of pensive pauses there between ricky and i. and i said, is this a family member of mimi dittmer? and he answered yes.
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then my stomach kind of knotted up. then i thought to myself, what would i want to hear first if i was the person receive the message. and i said, your mother is fine. and then there was a huge pause, and then an exclamation from ricky. my heart sank there for a second. then we have a conversation. >> larry: you have every right to feel great. dr. grossman, what medical treatment was immediately applied to mimi? >> well, really it was just trying to get her out of the hole. she was stuck in the hole, obviously, for five days. and even once she got out of the hole, the area that she was in was very contaminated. we had been digging and drilling into the ceiling. there was dust and dirt all over the place. food that was rotting and other things going on. so just to get her out of the area as quickly as possible. but really, she was awake and talking and relatively stable. she just needed some iv hydration and reassurance.
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and she actually, again, remarkably and almost miraculously didn't need that much intervention. she was intact otherwise. you know, she didn't have any broken bones or anything very obvious and otherwise okay. >> larry: eric, how do you explain it? >> well, the minute i touched mimi and i finally made contact with her, i knew that she would be saved. and i decided to do at that point just being there with -- by myself and another member from new york task force, tom, he was just in the hole with me, but he was part away, closer to the opening that we had made. i knew that she would be saved. my only concern was that there was a really small narrow space that we will to get her through, which we were successful. and it went very well.
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>> larry: mimi, what would you like to say to these three men? >> i would like to say that they were awesome, and i thank them so much for all the work, all the effort they have given to take me out of there. it was a lot of work. it took hours. i cannot tell how many hours, but these men are awesome. i want to thank the rescue team of turkey, the one from new york, and the one from -- and the one from south florida. i want to thank them all. they worked as a team, and they did what they had to do. and they helped me. and i am really thankful. i want to also say that. >> larry: you sound very strong, mimi. go ahead. >> thank you. and i also want to say that
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these men were sent by my lord, jesus christ, to save me. >> larry: thank you. and gregs tall way around. >> because i had that faith. >> larry: thank you, mimi, god bless. we've been auctioning off my suspenders this week. proceeds benefit the peoples of haiti. the ones i am wearing tonight were bot outright by ash city worldwide, paying $25,000. they're challenging other to ante up the money split between the american red cross and the united states fund for unicef. go to cnn.com/larryking. keep bidding. i got a lot of suspenders. this is not more benefits at greater cost to your company insurance.
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soon. >> larry: and i understand you're bringing back other orphans as well who are being adopted? >> that is the case, again, if the flight gets off the ground. it looks like the babies that are adopted in the united states will be heading home hopefully very soon. >> larry: i understand the plane was donated. do you know who donated the plane that's going to take you back? >> jill might know that. i think she's been working really hard on that. >> i can tell you that, larry. >> larry: jill, who donated the plane? >> so larry, there's a couple real key happenings that are happening realtime. that is one of them. we had an incredible sponsorship for the charter flight and actually this entire what we're calling a reunification mission on behalf of god's littlest angels. that was messenger
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international.org. a national out yit based out of colorado springs. an incredible day to have that sponsorship. >> larry: when do you expect joe to come in with your new little son? >> well, you know, larry, we're hoping that this is going to happen in the next couple of days. there are so many balls up in the air and things change every ten minutes, we have some new information. the biggest thing today that we've been working on is that, number one, we're just normal people. i'm just an adoptive parent. and this has turned into just an incredible opportunity to make history. there is really not a lot of precedent here that we have to go off of. so we're trying to work with key influential and people, organizations and lawyers, to figure out how we're going to process the kids. and samuel being one of them. we're really struggling. we're meeting right now. i had to step away from that meeting. >> larry: we're going to devote a lot more time to this tomorrow night. we hope by then he's home. we're cramped for time tonight.
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>> larry: now welcome to "larry king live." enrique iglesias. the grammy winning recording artist. and with us here lead vocalist for the two-time grammy linkin . they're here to raise funds for the earthquake relief efforts. this is called download to donate for haiti. did you come up with this, mike? >> the name i was a part of. the actual idea for the piece came from the band and our organization, music for relief. >> enrique, how did you get involved? >> mike and his band, linkin park, we're both managed by the same management company. and they asked me to do this. you know, i grew up in miami. as you know, miami has a huge haitian population and many of my friends grows up were haitians. and they've been very affected
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by what's going on in haiti. a lot of them have lost family members in haiti. so i was right on, i was ready to do it. i had some music that i wanted to give to music for relief that nobody's heard yet. >> larry: how does it work, mike? >> we're at a really special point in time as far as a project like this goes. a few years ago, you wouldn't have been able to turn around a song in a matter of days the way it's happened now. you wouldn't have the social -- the online communities that we've got now. you wouldn't have had facebook and twitter and all these great -- >> larry: what happened? >> what happened on our end, we reached out to artists. got brand new songs that nobody's heard of. in some cases we wrote a song specifically for this cause, called "not alone." fans can go to musicforrelief.org or anywhere, their friend's site might actually have that on it. a lot of people are embedding it on the facebook pages.
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you can click it, have the music for free. you can donate to the cause and the money goes, 100% o the money goes to haitian relief efforts. >> larry: you donated a song, enrique, is that the way it works? >> great artists like alanis morissette, dave matthews band, all american rejects. the songs i've never heard before. they've previously been unreleased. cool for the fans. they can donate whatever amount they want. >> larry: wow, you tell them, i want to donate $10 and you get the music. >> yeah. >> we didn't want to tell them -- some people can donate $100. that's great. please do. some people don't have that money to donate. but the way that they can participate is grabbing the widget, the little window into this project, and putting it on their facebook page or putting it on their blog. >> larry: so the simplest way to do it for the viewer is to do what? >> go to musicforrelief.org.
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>> larry: musicfor rereef.org. go to musicforrelief.org and check it all out. one of the artists taking part in download to donate for haiti is grammy winning recording artist peter gabriel. he's contributing his cover of a david bowie song "heroes." here is the song and more powerful, painful images from haiti. ♪ i i will be king ♪ ♪ and you you will be queen ♪
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♪ though nothing will drive us away ♪ ♪ we can be heroes just for one day ♪ ♪ we can be a hero ♪ just for one day ♪ ♪ i can remember ♪ standing standing by the wall ♪ and the guns
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shot above our heads ♪ ♪ and we kissed as though nothing could fall ♪ ♪ and the shame the shame was on the other side ♪ ♪ we can beat them forever and ever ♪ ♪ and we can be heroes just for one day ♪

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